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February 28th, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments

I played two tournaments today on Full Tilt. The one was the 2.20 cashout that I typically play. The second was the Big-Little where I managed to money. I've a problem and it occurred in the cashout.

On the first table I got involved in the first hand. I played the first hand and played it stupid. It was a cheap pot and I had Q high on the river and still called him down with an underpair. This is a double stack tournament so you can do some strange things with a purpose. Unfortunately, I was move a few hands later. I was then moved; I played a few hands at the next table; I was moved again.

Now, Tilt has a little bug/feature. It often doesn't close the window after the move. I ended up with 4 windows open here. Oh, and on the last one I did just play one hand as I was tilted by the musical chairs. I think I may be the first to recognize that form of tilt.

Now, looking at the first three windows:

  • All tables continued to play as full tables
  • I was moved to fill tables that had a missing player
  • It appears a player was moved to make room for me

I have to think of this as an arbitrary move that caused damage to my potential to play well. I was moved and then another replaced me with no impact on the other participants.

This has happened to me on several occasions and it sucks. My question to the group is:

Have you seen or experienced this situation? I have watched others get moved in very early play and suspect there move may have been similar.

ADDENDUM:

BTW, here is the response from their support people:

Hello James,
Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.
As players are eliminated from multi-table tournaments, the tables are balanced or broken to keep the number of players at each table as even and fair as possible. If a table loses two or more players at any point in a tournament, play is stopped while a table balance or break occurs to even out the players at the tables.
Table balancing occurs when there are an unequal number of players at each table in a multi-table event due to players being eliminated at different times. When this happens, some players are selected by our random number generator and assigned a new seat based on their relative position to the blind at their previous table, which remains open.
Table breaking occurs when the remaining players can fit on a smaller number of tables. When a table breaks, it is closed and all players from the broken table are assigned random seats at other tables. As it is completely random, this may result in a player being moved closer to or further from the blinds.
Players are moved in multi-table events as fairly as possible. If you are on a table that breaks, you have just as much chance of being placed into an advantageous position as you do a less favorable position. 
For more information, please refer to our Tournament Rules #20 and #21 at: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/tourRules.php
Good luck at the tables, and if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us.
Regards,
Shane
Poker Specialist
Full Tilt Poker Support
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This balancing or I should say overbalancing has been happening too often.  I'd say 30-50% of the time I run into this early.  If I can avoid it at the start, it stops doing it.
The stats show I was in just 9 hand instead of what is shown.   All of the tables I was moved from had a player moved there to take my place!!!!! Not one of the tables was close to populate other tables.
This is totally unacceptable.  I was so disgusted I just busted out and came to the mail program to complain.   A major part of play is evaluating competition.  When I get thrown from table to table, it is no longer poker.   I might as well go play the slots.
I don't know who the genius programmer was that designed the algorithm.  But, he needs to go back to school and be replaced.  The fact that this is occurring should be seen as a major embarassment by FT.
I would like this forwarded to the heads of security and software.  I am not expecting or accepting a Level 1 support response.
Linda, would you please forward this to Howard.  It really affect the quality of the site in a way I'm sure he'll want to know about.

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  1. February 28th, 2010 at 21:09 | #1

    I get moved, but it doesn’t seem overly so…not sure what to say here.

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