Comments on: Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2010/02/08/gypsies-tramps-and-thieves-2/ Living the Poker Life -- Main Street Version Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ken Prevo http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2010/02/08/gypsies-tramps-and-thieves-2/comment-page-1/#comment-546 Ken Prevo Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:24:49 +0000 http://www.pokerperambulation.com/?p=1130#comment-546 I see your point with RICO or some omnibus type of law. The point really is that there isn't a mechanism in place to properly do discovery or find a court that would address the problem without a convoluted use of the courts. It has to make class action attorneys sad. I see your point with RICO or some omnibus type of law. The point really is that there isn’t a mechanism in place to properly do discovery or find a court that would address the problem without a convoluted use of the courts. It has to make class action attorneys sad.

]]> By: Haley http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2010/02/08/gypsies-tramps-and-thieves-2/comment-page-1/#comment-545 Haley Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:32:20 +0000 http://www.pokerperambulation.com/?p=1130#comment-545 By the way, I disagree with your "likely to walk" comment. Authorities move slowly but I'd guess that a goldmine north of $20 million will be too juicy for them to not put some effort into continuing to pursue. I expect in another year or two a RICO case or something similar will be filed. US feds always like to time them against big gambling events, too, for the notoriety, so I'd make a random guess that we might see something break two weeks before the Super Bowl in 2011 or 2012. By the way, I disagree with your “likely to walk” comment. Authorities move slowly but I’d guess that a goldmine north of $20 million will be too juicy for them to not put some effort into continuing to pursue. I expect in another year or two a RICO case or something similar will be filed. US feds always like to time them against big gambling events, too, for the notoriety, so I’d make a random guess that we might see something break two weeks before the Super Bowl in 2011 or 2012.

]]> By: Haley http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2010/02/08/gypsies-tramps-and-thieves-2/comment-page-1/#comment-544 Haley Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:27:32 +0000 http://www.pokerperambulation.com/?p=1130#comment-544 Your comments are dead-on. I'm aware of the flaws in my methodology, but one has to start somewhere. One thing that I'm now sure of is that the HH's (flawed as they are), were extracted based on two different protocols. I'll be issuing a public call in that 2+2 thread for anyone who has received HH's against the cheating accounts to send them to me. And here's why: Some of the HH's are complete runs of hands, while others are broken up into little bits and pieces, with lots of hands missing. So far the complete-run sessions show a very random distribution of hands, but I want to examine the chopped-up sessions and determine if their overall composition (in terms of the cheaters' hole-card holdings) differs significantly from random distribution. There are things one can learn from these omissions, even if we don't necessarily have each and every hand played. It's a process that's going to take me many weeks, if not months. Your comments are dead-on. I’m aware of the flaws in my methodology, but one has to start somewhere. One thing that I’m now sure of is that the HH’s (flawed as they are), were extracted based on two different protocols. I’ll be issuing a public call in that 2+2 thread for anyone who has received HH’s against the cheating accounts to send them to me. And here’s why:

Some of the HH’s are complete runs of hands, while others are broken up into little bits and pieces, with lots of hands missing. So far the complete-run sessions show a very random distribution of hands, but I want to examine the chopped-up sessions and determine if their overall composition (in terms of the cheaters’ hole-card holdings) differs significantly from random distribution. There are things one can learn from these omissions, even if we don’t necessarily have each and every hand played.

It’s a process that’s going to take me many weeks, if not months.

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