Comments on: Inside V Outside http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2009/09/16/inside-v-outside/ Living the Poker Life -- Main Street Version Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:44:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: KenP http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2009/09/16/inside-v-outside/comment-page-1/#comment-333 KenP Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:39:45 +0000 http://pokerperambulation.com/WordPress/?p=699#comment-333 I guess it is like they say about restaurants that have those price free menus... I guess it is like they say about restaurants that have those price free menus…

]]> By: Bill Rini http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2009/09/16/inside-v-outside/comment-page-1/#comment-330 Bill Rini Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:24:17 +0000 http://pokerperambulation.com/WordPress/?p=699#comment-330 Well, I do have to admit that less than 3 blocks from my apartment is a Ferrari, Lambo, Maserati, and BMW dealership. I might have been tempted to go take a look but in Thailand they have a 100% or 150% (I forget) tariff on cars not produced in the country (Honda, Nissan, and Toyota all have small plants here). So yes, a 3-series BMW starts out at around $130,000. I can't even imagine what they ask for a Ferrari. Well, I do have to admit that less than 3 blocks from my apartment is a Ferrari, Lambo, Maserati, and BMW dealership. I might have been tempted to go take a look but in Thailand they have a 100% or 150% (I forget) tariff on cars not produced in the country (Honda, Nissan, and Toyota all have small plants here). So yes, a 3-series BMW starts out at around $130,000. I can’t even imagine what they ask for a Ferrari.

]]> By: Ken Prevo http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2009/09/16/inside-v-outside/comment-page-1/#comment-327 Ken Prevo Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:38:07 +0000 http://pokerperambulation.com/WordPress/?p=699#comment-327 Sorry, didn't realize those Thai gin mills required such dedication! As to the car, rest assured I don't think of you as a DrC... http://pokerdoctor.blogspot.com/2009/09/guess-what-i-did-today.html As to sites, it seems like a time for all of them to make difficult decisions. Poor folks! I'll have to send in more rake. :) Sorry, didn’t realize those Thai gin mills required such dedication!

As to the car, rest assured I don’t think of you as a DrC…

http://pokerdoctor.blogspot.com/2009/09/guess-what-i-did-today.html

As to sites, it seems like a time for all of them to make difficult decisions. Poor folks! I’ll have to send in more rake. :)

]]> By: Bill Rini http://www.pokerperambulation.com/2009/09/16/inside-v-outside/comment-page-1/#comment-324 Bill Rini Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:10:40 +0000 http://pokerperambulation.com/WordPress/?p=699#comment-324 Hey Ken, Thanks for the follow up. Actually, I don't really disagree with you. However, I think the US legal situation and this are two distinct issues. Let me explain why . . . If you run a poker room in Europe that isn't US facing right now, this is your current reality. You can't hope that the US is going to open its doors and welcome you with open arms as a business strategy. So this is a problem everyone outside of the US facing poker rooms has to tackle immediately. The US legal issue is completely different in that it could go this way or that way or even that other way. We simply don't know how it's going to work out and what things are going to look like after the dust settles. We can speculate and I don't think you and I are too far apart on what the outcome will be but that could still be months or even years away. But, I do agree that when the dust does settle the land based US casinos are going to have a massive advantage. And yes, it will lead to consolidation. And yes, it will lead to less competition. And ultimately that is a bad thing for consumers. So, please view my thoughts in that context. An immediate and real problem facing all non-US facing rooms right now vs. a potential problem at some undetermined point down the road. Not to diminish the impact of a legal US market but unless some of these sites get their act together today they won't be around to even worry about the second problem. And I'm not sure I would call it a mid-life hiatus. I'm probably working harder now than I was when I was working for The Man. :-) Though I'm glad you didn't call it a mid-life crisis . . . because I haven't even looked at convertable sports cars. lol Hey Ken,

Thanks for the follow up.

Actually, I don’t really disagree with you. However, I think the US legal situation and this are two distinct issues. Let me explain why . . . If you run a poker room in Europe that isn’t US facing right now, this is your current reality. You can’t hope that the US is going to open its doors and welcome you with open arms as a business strategy. So this is a problem everyone outside of the US facing poker rooms has to tackle immediately.

The US legal issue is completely different in that it could go this way or that way or even that other way. We simply don’t know how it’s going to work out and what things are going to look like after the dust settles. We can speculate and I don’t think you and I are too far apart on what the outcome will be but that could still be months or even years away.

But, I do agree that when the dust does settle the land based US casinos are going to have a massive advantage. And yes, it will lead to consolidation. And yes, it will lead to less competition. And ultimately that is a bad thing for consumers.

So, please view my thoughts in that context. An immediate and real problem facing all non-US facing rooms right now vs. a potential problem at some undetermined point down the road. Not to diminish the impact of a legal US market but unless some of these sites get their act together today they won’t be around to even worry about the second problem.

And I’m not sure I would call it a mid-life hiatus. I’m probably working harder now than I was when I was working for The Man. :-)

Though I’m glad you didn’t call it a mid-life crisis . . . because I haven’t even looked at convertable sports cars. lol

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